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Do you, as an owner at Deer Ridge Mountain Resort, believe we are ALL entitled to have access and be able to copy the books and records of our Homeowner's Association?
So, do I.
But, apparently, Employee Joe Thomas and President Luther Parker and the Board disagree - and are doing all they can to block access, publication and candid discussion of the Asinine Assessment, special deals and favored treatment - at the expense of all Owners.
What ARE they so afraid of us finding out?
Maybe it has to do with the HUGE $10,000 overcharge for my HOA Fees, special assessments, water and cable TV bill - which, in my personal opinion, is due to fraudulent intent or at least gross negligence by the Deer Ridge Board of Directors and / or General Manager Joe Thomas. Please see the posts for details.
We have no choice but to file a lawsuit against GGRC and RML in order to finally, once and for all, make it clear that OWNERS do have a right to all the information about our property and our investment at Deer Ridge.
If you have thoughts and ideas and suggestions, please post them here on this blog.
If you have any clout with the Board, convince them to stop the charade - and let the owners have the information that all owners own!
If you want to help cover the legal costs to get us the right to see the bids for $50,000 for nuts and bolts - and the other background documents for the $353,500 Asinine Assessment, please click on the Donate Button below.
With enough in donations, we can hire BOTH an attorney AND a forensic accountant for the whole process through the Court in Sevier County to make absolutely certain we win EVERY point - and never have to fight Employee Joe and the Board on this stuff again.
Even a $100 contribution will help show that you are in favor of an open and FULLY transparent homeowners' association at Deer Ridge Mountain Resort!
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GENERAL DISCLAIMER FOR ALL PAGES AND POSTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE I DO OR SAY REGARDING DEER RIDGE AND ANY AND ALL RELATED PARTIES:
Note: The following, and the information on any and all other posts and pages by me about General Manager Joe Thomas, GGRC, RML and /or the Board of Directors and its members, or any related topics, are my personal opinions based on my ongoing investigation into the actions and inactions of the GGRC and RML Board of Directors and / or Joe Thomas, General Manager.
While I believe these allegations to be true based on my objective analysis, these opinions remain as only allegations until I, or others, prove things in court.
My goal is to offer all owners all the information and evidence that I have available so that everyone can reach their own conclusions.
Please note the obvious:
Everything I ever say or write in person, via emails, or on my blog, about Deer Ridge or any and all related entities and organizations or any and all affiliated personnel or owners, is strictly my own personal opinion of course - based, in part, from my owning a unit at Deer Ridge for over five years - and on my own personal history.
That history includes earning a Presidential MBA degree, being awarded a Bachelor of Science, With Honors, in Engineering Physics from UT, working for NASA as a rocket scientist at Marshall Space Flight Center, 30 years of CEO experience directly employing and managing many hundreds of people at multiple companies I personally started and operated (including one that I took public), 15 years experience buying and selling over $100 million of property and managing more than 45,000 rental units - AND being able to read and do four-function arithmetic.
Welcome to all owners of Deer Ridge Mountain Resort condos in Gatlinburg, Tennessee.
My goal is to help all Deer Ridge owners to have a voice in the management and operation of your property.
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Investment Analysis For A Rental Condo At Deer Ridge
Will you really lose $40,000 cash if you buy a rental condo at Deer Ridge and use Ridge Management Ltd?
As an owner-occupied home, Deer Ridge is an incredible value with THE best view in the Smokies and great amenities.
However, several owners and would-be owners of Deer Ridge condos have asked me if these units are a good rental property investment or not. To help answer that question
objectively, I had to analyze the real moving parts of buying and owning here.
Get my complete, detailed investment analysis based on buying a rental condo unit at Deer Ridge Mountain Resort in Gatlinburg, Tennessee.
It shows what you MUST do to make money when you buy a rental unit at Deer Ridge.
Every Dollar You Pay For Deer Ridge Is The WRONG Amount!
Please read the various posts here on this Deer Ridge Owners Blog - and see my evidence and analysis which I believe shows conclusively that EVERY dollar of HOA Fees, EVERY dollar EVERY special assessment, EVERY water bill and cable TV sent out for YEARS to ALL Deer Ridge Owners has been wrong!
In many cases at least ONE THIRD of ALL owners have been GROSSLY overcharged. My calculations show that I have been overcharged more than TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS in the past 50 months I've owned at Deer Ridge.
The Board has been WRONGLY and arbitrarily ignoring the requirements of the Master Deed and the Bylaws for YEARS.
If my analysis is correct, the Board has zero choice. They MUST abide by the Master Deed Percentages.
But they haven’t.
However, if the Board knowingly ignored the clear directives of the Master Deed and the Bylaws when allocating costs to various unit types, and overcharging certain unit types on a regular basis, my opinion is that the Board and Joe Thomas may have acted fraudulently.
If they have not been fraudulent, then they have been, at the very least, grossly negligent.
Read the various blog postings - and judge for yourself.
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"We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert." — J. Robert Oppenheimer. This includes the Board of Directors of Deer Ridge Mountain Resort.
Wanda spoke with Doug Sharp and she’ll relate that in a couple of lines. We terminated our agreement with Deer Ridge and got a fax response and email response (that I asked for) from Mr. Thomas to make sure it was a done deal. So come December 10 we are out of that arrangement. And now, Wanda!
I spoke to Doug Sharp on the 13th of October. He was very accommodating and graceful in answering all 17 of my questions. Doug said he would have 3 quotes on new carpet, which we think our condo needs, available for us when we come down on November 11th for a weekend stay.
In addition, he will take care of the installation and hookup for a flat screen TV as well as the carpet that we want. He even has an arrangement with an electronics business where the products are cheaper than we could get elsewhere.
The breaks he gave us for coming over were just great! His goal is to assist us in making the move as easy as possible. I am very pleased with our conversation and we are really looking forward to working with Cobbly Nob. Thank you Robert for making this possible!
If you are not happy for any reason with the rental company you are using, it would be so worth your time to contact Cobbly Nob Rentals’ General Manager Doug Sharp.
Robert Goodman did us the favor of choosing them, but after speaking with them just a few times, so much more has come out about their goals for us, their attitude towards owners (they feel it is our place and do not penalize us for using it) and their way of marketing our units.
Cobbly Nob is located on 321 near Deer Ridge and has always had walk-in traffic because of their location and restaurant. What I didn’t know, is that they have had requests about Deer Ridge rentals because people can see the units on the side of the hill as they are driving by and are wondering about rentals. It is an impressive sight and that is how I found it.
The major difference you have heard about is the percentage, but there is so much more to it.
Never have I spoken to anyone or any company in the rental business in that area that has had such an accommodating attitude towards the owners, as well as having the satisfaction of the guests so important to them. When I explained that there are some times during the winter season when our road is not navigable and what would they do in that situation, Mr.Sharp said they have 4 wheel drive vehicles there at their office and drive the guests up safely and also bring them down when needed. Would that be noticeable to a guest, or would they rather have a sign saying “road closed” and no way to get thru.If this service was ever offered by RML, I never heard of it.
Also, as with other rentals companies, Deer Ridge was always difficult to put into their rental company because of various reasons. It is the perfect time to try a company who has other units for rent and doesn’t depend on gouging only us for every little thing. Also the location is perfect for our guests and they get walk-in traffic as well and are earnest in building repeat customers. They are as happy about having the chance to work for us, as we are to have them. Have you ever heard that before?
Quite a different attitude than with the previous company. So yes, the percentage is better, but it is worth your time to contact Doug at Cobbly Nob and see what else they have to offer. Rentals and rental companies are changing in the Gatlinburg and area and it is time to go with a more updated company and their system. Deer Ridge is such a beautiful place it will be nice to get what it deserves traffic-wise.
Thank you again to Robert Goodman for qualifying this company for us all.
I completed my 60 day notice to leave RML on Sept. 6th of this year, I have been renting to Friends, Family and some of my Flower Shop Owner Customers, This has worked for me, But I am looking forward to paying just XX% {Too Low To Mention Here!} AND Getting Professional Service, And possibly Now Having a Board that ONLY Has to manage GGRC, This just has to be a better situation for us all…
It makes no sense to me, to pay a 50% split, Plus the other fees levied, When ALL OVER THE GATLINBURG AREA, 90% of the other management companies do a very good job managing Cabins that are spread out over MILES and MILES for just 40%, Yet OUR OWN Management Co. NEEDS a 50% Split when all their units are within approx. 1000 FEET of each other….
I am Looking Forward to better Results and much Less Confusion, Much Less Chance for Mis-Understandings, Especially with those Differences Costing ALL OF US, not only LOTS $$$$ Of Needless Money Spent, But also much less Personal Friction…..
Thanks to Both Robert Goodman And Doug Sharp for giving all of us a Better Way to Handle our Business..
If the Assoc. Fess do Drop 35-40% It will also save most of us approx. 1,200.00 a Yr. and make these units sell better, creating a Demand for them, and Hopefully / Higher Market Prices ….
Signing Up Today, FINALLY a Choice, Finally Competition, And that is what Has Made This Country GREAT……..
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Owner Files $3 Million Lawsuit Against HOA, General Manager And Board Members
A homeowner in Gatlinburg, Tennessee has filed a $3 Million Lawsuit against his HOA, General Manager And All Individual Board Members at Deer Ridge Mountain Resort.
In response to their meritless, retaliatory $1 Million defamation lawsuit against me, I have now filed a $3 Million lawsuit against Deer Ridge Mountain Resort, AKA Gatlinburg Golf and Racquet Club HOA and Joe Thomas, Luther Parker, Larry Ohm, Margie Duncan, David Barone and Tom Reise, all as individuals.
If you believe in free speech as much as we do, we need your help - no matter where in America you may live.
The Deer Ridge HOA board and individual board members have filed a $1 Million Lawsuit against me in their ongoing attempts to stop this blog and have its contents removed. Click Press Release for details.
This power clique wants to continue to block free speech on this property and to keep their illegitimate secrets hidden from other owners.
They are willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars of other owners' money on legal fees to keep themselves in power while they continue to break both Tennessee state law and Deer Ridge property law.
We need your help with the legal fees that will be required to force them to abide by the law - and insure that Deer Ridge Mountain Resort is entitled to free speech like the rest of America.
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Wanda spoke with Doug Sharp and she’ll relate that in a couple of lines. We terminated our agreement with Deer Ridge and got a fax response and email response (that I asked for) from Mr. Thomas to make sure it was a done deal. So come December 10 we are out of that arrangement. And now, Wanda!
I spoke to Doug Sharp on the 13th of October. He was very accommodating and graceful in answering all 17 of my questions. Doug said he would have 3 quotes on new carpet, which we think our condo needs, available for us when we come down on November 11th for a weekend stay.
In addition, he will take care of the installation and hookup for a flat screen TV as well as the carpet that we want. He even has an arrangement with an electronics business where the products are cheaper than we could get elsewhere.
The breaks he gave us for coming over were just great! His goal is to assist us in making the move as easy as possible. I am very pleased with our conversation and we are really looking forward to working with Cobbly Nob. Thank you Robert for making this possible!
Wanda and Jim Goebel
Linda Morgan E 207
10/12/11 @2pm
If you are not happy for any reason with the rental company you are using, it would be so worth your time to contact Cobbly Nob Rentals’ General Manager Doug Sharp.
Robert Goodman did us the favor of choosing them, but after speaking with them just a few times, so much more has come out about their goals for us, their attitude towards owners (they feel it is our place and do not penalize us for using it) and their way of marketing our units.
Cobbly Nob is located on 321 near Deer Ridge and has always had walk-in traffic because of their location and restaurant. What I didn’t know, is that they have had requests about Deer Ridge rentals because people can see the units on the side of the hill as they are driving by and are wondering about rentals. It is an impressive sight and that is how I found it.
The major difference you have heard about is the percentage, but there is so much more to it.
Never have I spoken to anyone or any company in the rental business in that area that has had such an accommodating attitude towards the owners, as well as having the satisfaction of the guests so important to them. When I explained that there are some times during the winter season when our road is not navigable and what would they do in that situation, Mr.Sharp said they have 4 wheel drive vehicles there at their office and drive the guests up safely and also bring them down when needed. Would that be noticeable to a guest, or would they rather have a sign saying “road closed” and no way to get thru.If this service was ever offered by RML, I never heard of it.
Also, as with other rentals companies, Deer Ridge was always difficult to put into their rental company because of various reasons. It is the perfect time to try a company who has other units for rent and doesn’t depend on gouging only us for every little thing. Also the location is perfect for our guests and they get walk-in traffic as well and are earnest in building repeat customers. They are as happy about having the chance to work for us, as we are to have them. Have you ever heard that before?
Quite a different attitude than with the previous company. So yes, the percentage is better, but it is worth your time to contact Doug at Cobbly Nob and see what else they have to offer. Rentals and rental companies are changing in the Gatlinburg and area and it is time to go with a more updated company and their system. Deer Ridge is such a beautiful place it will be nice to get what it deserves traffic-wise.
Thank you again to Robert Goodman for qualifying this company for us all.
I completed my 60 day notice to leave RML on Sept. 6th of this year, I have been renting to Friends, Family and some of my Flower Shop Owner Customers, This has worked for me, But I am looking forward to paying just XX% {Too Low To Mention Here!} AND Getting Professional Service, And possibly Now Having a Board that ONLY Has to manage GGRC, This just has to be a better situation for us all…
It makes no sense to me, to pay a 50% split, Plus the other fees levied, When ALL OVER THE GATLINBURG AREA, 90% of the other management companies do a very good job managing Cabins that are spread out over MILES and MILES for just 40%, Yet OUR OWN Management Co. NEEDS a 50% Split when all their units are within approx. 1000 FEET of each other….
I am Looking Forward to better Results and much Less Confusion, Much Less Chance for Mis-Understandings, Especially with those Differences Costing ALL OF US, not only LOTS $$$$ Of Needless Money Spent, But also much less Personal Friction…..
Thanks to Both Robert Goodman And Doug Sharp for giving all of us a Better Way to Handle our Business..
If the Assoc. Fess do Drop 35-40% It will also save most of us approx. 1,200.00 a Yr. and make these units sell better, creating a Demand for them, and Hopefully / Higher Market Prices ….
Signing Up Today, FINALLY a Choice, Finally Competition, And that is what Has Made This Country GREAT……..