Views From Deer Ridge And Beyond

These are my personal images and photos that show the beauty of the view from Deer Ridge Mountain Resort and the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, Cobbly Nob and the Gatlinburg, Tennessee area.

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Deer Ridge Litigation Fund

Do you, as an owner at Deer Ridge Mountain Resort, believe we are ALL entitled to have access and be able to copy the books and records of our Homeowner's Association?

So, do I.

But, apparently, Employee Joe Thomas and President Luther Parker and the Board disagree - and are doing all they can to block access, publication and candid discussion of the Asinine Assessment, special deals and favored treatment - at the expense of all Owners.

What ARE they so afraid of us finding out?

Maybe it has to do with the HUGE $10,000 overcharge for my HOA Fees, special assessments, water and cable TV bill - which, in my personal opinion, is due to fraudulent intent or at least gross negligence by the Deer Ridge Board of Directors and / or General Manager Joe Thomas. Please see the posts for details.

We have no choice but to file a lawsuit against GGRC and RML in order to finally, once and for all, make it clear that OWNERS do have a right to all the information about our property and our investment at Deer Ridge.

If you have thoughts and ideas and suggestions, please post them here on this blog.

If you have any clout with the Board, convince them to stop the charade - and let the owners have the information that all owners own!

If you want to help cover the legal costs to get us the right to see the bids for $50,000 for nuts and bolts - and the other background documents for the $353,500 Asinine Assessment, please click on the Donate Button below.

With enough in donations, we can hire BOTH an attorney AND a forensic accountant for the whole process through the Court in Sevier County to make absolutely certain we win EVERY point - and never have to fight Employee Joe and the Board on this stuff again.

Even a $100 contribution will help show that you are in favor of an open and FULLY transparent homeowners' association at Deer Ridge Mountain Resort!

Thanks so much to those of you who have already contributed!


Disclaimer

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GENERAL DISCLAIMER FOR ALL PAGES AND POSTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE I DO OR SAY REGARDING DEER RIDGE AND ANY AND ALL RELATED PARTIES:

Note: The following, and the information on any and all other posts and pages by me about General Manager Joe Thomas, GGRC, RML and /or the Board of Directors and its members, or any related topics, are my personal opinions based on my ongoing investigation into the actions and inactions of the GGRC and RML Board of Directors and / or Joe Thomas, General Manager.

While I believe these allegations to be true based on my objective analysis, these opinions remain as only allegations until I, or others, prove things in court.

My goal is to offer all owners all the information and evidence that I have available so that everyone can reach their own conclusions.

Please note the obvious:

Everything I ever say or write in person, via emails, or on my blog, about Deer Ridge or any and all related entities and organizations or any and all affiliated personnel or owners, is strictly my own personal opinion of course - based, in part, from my owning a unit at Deer Ridge for over five years - and on my own personal history.

That history includes earning a Presidential MBA degree, being awarded a Bachelor of Science, With Honors, in Engineering Physics from UT, working for NASA as a rocket scientist at Marshall Space Flight Center, 30 years of CEO experience directly employing and managing many hundreds of people at multiple companies I personally started and operated (including one that I took public), 15 years experience buying and selling over $100 million of property and managing more than 45,000 rental units - AND being able to read and do four-function arithmetic.

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Welcome to All Deer Ridge Owners

Welcome to all owners of Deer Ridge Mountain Resort condos in Gatlinburg, Tennessee.

My goal is to help all Deer Ridge owners to have a voice in the management and operation of your property.

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Gross Negligence – Or Is It Fraud?

Every Dollar You Pay For Deer Ridge Is The WRONG Amount!

Please read the various posts here on this Deer Ridge Owners Blog - and see my evidence and analysis which I believe shows conclusively that EVERY dollar of HOA Fees, EVERY dollar EVERY special assessment, EVERY water bill and cable TV sent out for YEARS to ALL Deer Ridge Owners has been wrong!

In many cases at least ONE THIRD of ALL owners have been GROSSLY overcharged. My calculations show that I have been overcharged more than TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS in the past 50 months I've owned at Deer Ridge.

The Board has been WRONGLY and arbitrarily ignoring the requirements of the Master Deed and the Bylaws for YEARS.

If my analysis is correct, the Board has zero choice. They MUST abide by the Master Deed Percentages.

But they haven’t.

However, if the Board knowingly ignored the clear directives of the Master Deed and the Bylaws when allocating costs to various unit types, and overcharging certain unit types on a regular basis, my opinion is that the Board and Joe Thomas may have acted fraudulently.

If they have not been fraudulent, then they have been, at the very least, grossly negligent.

Read the various blog postings - and judge for yourself.

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"We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert." — J. Robert Oppenheimer. This includes the Board of Directors of Deer Ridge Mountain Resort.


Deer Ridge Board Attack Letter - Another Lie Exposed - Joe Thomas Tree Butchery

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This post is in specific response to ONE of the many lies and gross misrepresentations contained in the Deer Ridge Board Attack Letter sent to all owners about me.

They are apparently SO desperate to discredit me, and the truths told here on this blog, that they are out on a vendetta to attempt to discredit what I say – even to the point of spreading rumors that I am senile. (I will let the readers of this blog determine from its content and the recent Investment Analysis for Deer Ridge whether the author is senile or not.)

These are the kinds of people we have currently managing Deer Ridge – and it is way past time for a change.  But more about that very soon.

Joe Thomas and the Board Lied To All Owners Once Again

The Lie du Jour we are dealing with here is this one that was contained in their Attack Letter:

  • “On November 15,2009, on his website, he posted pictures along with the allegation ‘Joe Thomas Butchers Deer Ridge Trees For Benefit of Non Deer Ridge Owner’ …What his cursory investigation failed to reveal was that one of the cabin owners on Moonshine Ridge, which overlooks Weber Road, also wanted some trees topped that were located on the south side of the road. Through the Maintenance staff, Joe contacted the landscaper that does contract work for Deer Ridge and referred him to the persons wanting the trees cut. The property line is very close to the road at this point and GG&RC only owns a 25 ft right of way from the center line of Weber Road. The topped tree closest to the road is 33 ft from the center line. Therefore, it appears that most, if not all, of the trees topped in this area were not on GG&RC property.”

    From our analysis of the plat, the above “convenient” calculations by Joey and the Board appear to be very wrong and these trees are, indeed, on our property.

  • Do you believe it a coincidence that these trees were butchered at virtually the same time that this one cabin, the ONLY one that benefited from the butchering, signed on to be managed by RML?  Please see:  Joe Thomas Butchers Deer Ridge Trees For Benefit Of Non Deer Ridge Owner,   Joe Thomas Butchers Deer Ridge Trees For Benefit Of Non Deer Ridge Owner – Chapter 2 and Tree Trimming At Deer Ridge: A Guest Post By Tina.

Thanks to the help of Deer Ridge owner Todd Novak, we reviewed the plats to the property in detail.  He was outraged how the board had so obviously lied about so many things in their Attack Letter – including their spurious claim that Deer Ridge did not own those trees that Joe Thomas butchered – that Todd went to the County offices for Sevier County and got the following plats of Deer Ridge.

If you look at the following plat, Deer Ridge owns the 10.56 acres identified as Plot 3.

Sevier County Plat of Deer Ridge and Surrounding plots Deer Ridge Board Attack Letter   Another Lie Exposed   Joe Thomas Tree Butchery


This coincides with the plats that are part of the Deer Ridge Master Deed.

The Truth About The Measurements

Based on the documents provided by Todd, I was able to run some measurements today on this issue using the surveyor’s plat and my satellite-accurate GPS to calculate the real distances.

Acrobat offers a great analysis tools for doing precise measurements to scale.  Below you can see that we were able to find the exact location of the Joe Thomas Tree Butchering as located at N 35 45.942  and W 83 20.942.  This location is identified at the bottom of the red scales show below.  This shows the exact distance from the center of our road to the edge of Deer Ridge owned property to be 0.25″ – and when plotted to scale, that 0.25″ is equivalent to about 60′ from center line of the road to the edge of our property.


Deer Ridge Plat Full Showing Map and Scale and Measurements Deer Ridge Board Attack Letter   Another Lie Exposed   Joe Thomas Tree Butchery

The following are enlargements of the above plat so that you can more easily see the scale of things.  Note again, we are measuring at the bottom part of the two parallel lines which mark both the center of the road and the Deer Ridge property line.  When you compare the scale, you will see that the distance is 60′ .

Now, let’s look back at the FALSE claim Joey and the Board made in one of their many lies in the Attack Letter:  ” The property line is very close to the road at this point and GG&RC only owns a 25 ft right of way from the center line of Weber Road.”

The REAL distance is 60′ NOT the contrived lie by Joey and the Board of 25′!

Gee, guys, why the lie?  Then, in the same part of their Attack Letter, they state,”The topped tree closest to the road is 33 ft from the center line. Therefore, it appears that most, if not all, of the trees topped in this area were not on GG&RC property.” 

Even if their statement was true – that the topped trees were 33′ from the center line, ALL of the topped trees WERE on GGRC property – which means that Joe Thomas DID destroy Deer Ridge assets for the benefit of a non Deer Ridge owner!

But wait – there’s more.

When measured via GPS satellite data, the topped tree closest to the road is 20′ NOT the claimed 33′ that Joey and the Board make in their Attack Letter.  ANOTHER lie.  See data below.

Deer Ridge Plat Scale Deer Ridge Board Attack Letter   Another Lie Exposed   Joe Thomas Tree ButcheryDeer Ridge Plat Tree Butchering Location Deer Ridge Board Attack Letter   Another Lie Exposed   Joe Thomas Tree ButcheryThe following



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If They Lie To You About This – What Else Are Joe Thomas and the Board Lying About?

If Joe Thomas and your current Board lie to you about something like this, what ELSE are they lying about?

I don’t know about you – but I do not tolerate liars in my life.  And, I consider Joe Thomas and the entire current board to be completely untrustworthy and I personally have ZERO confidence in any thing they say or do.

How about you?  Do you trust them NOT to lie to you about the big stuff – when they are so willing to lie to you and all other owners about our property lines – just to try and protect Joe Thomas from justifiable responsibility for critically damaging valuable assets owned by all Deer Ridge owners?

Time For A Clean Sweep

Joe Thomas needs to be immediately fired.  For SO many reasons.  And this entire Board of Directors needs to be replaced by those who are willing to be transparent, open, accountable – and who will administer Deer Ridge Mountain Resort fairly for all owners – not just the small power clique who have dominated the HOA for years.

Let’s get rid of all these liars – and replace them with other owners who will finally do things right!

PS:  Thanks again to Todd for his research and Sevier County document search – and his quest for the truth at Deer Ridge.

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1 comment to Deer Ridge Board Attack Letter – Another Lie Exposed – Joe Thomas Tree Butchery

  • Tinamarie Wood

    Robert,

    I knew it! Joey doesn’t have Leo top trees unless there is a monetary benefit for him in some way. Betcha we also paid for it. Joe cares about nothing other than himself and what he can rape off of us as owners, and off this land. Down to the tree’s. This is pathetic and shameful.

    I invite any owner to drive up Moonshine Way and see for yourself what has been done and then go directly in front of that cabin and look who is the rental company! It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out what this scheming idiot of a manager and board will do.

    Lie about it?????? Absolutely. No doubt.

    They have to do what they do to survive. This is the no-tel motel first. Secondly, if it gets out, then dismiss it (and who said it) and if that is in the form of a lie ~ so be it. It is their political lack of honest character that has finally surfaced thanks to Robert, and they are getting CAUGHT in their own demise.

    They desperately need rml votes and needs cover/support. In the form of lies? Or those that will aid in their benefit? You betcha! Whatever it takes. Whomever they can use and will assist for $ or something?

    Why does anyone think that they do not want a forensic audit??? Because they have been truthful? They are so much in fear of the truth, it scares the h*ll out of them! (it would me if i were playing in their ballpark)

    As far as the mail is concerned. Well, it is not any secret that Joey fought those resident mailboxes hand, tooth, and nail. Even Sandee told me months ago that those mail boxes would NEVER happen. PERIOD. Made Joey mad. Joey now has a burr under his saddle.

    I guess we crossed Joey getting those boxes and he is just trying to ‘get even’ with Robert. He has had a little harder time getting me (i am sure he is trying and will continue) on those boxes, but he HAS been trying…i can tell you that. Even though mine has E104 on all my mail, IF the carrier, since he is so new at this misfiles, and it goes to the office, well best figure at least 2 weeks before it resurfaces or if it resurfaces at all?

    Just got to try to stay one step ahead of this idiot. Must be some sort of mail game with this guy. Likes to finger through our mail. He needs a life of his own and a playground somewhere else!

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