Hot Off The Press
Watch your mail. You will be getting a copy of the latest diatribe from President Luther Parker – this one regarding the Walkway Railing Alteration. To read Luther’s letter now, just click Fiasco or check under Documents You Can Download located in the left column of this blog.
Joey and The Board Finally Understand PART of Article XII
Readers of this blog know that I have been pushing hard for the Board and Joey to abide by the rules of the Master Deed and Bylaws. Readers also know that one part of that push has been with regard to Article XII – which requires, in part, that 75% of all owners have to give PRIOR approval for any alterations or improvements.
The Board APPEARS to finally understand that they cannot do anything they want with our money. We, the owners, are suppose to have a vote – and the final say. If the Board had enjoyed this epiphany earlier and had followed this REQUIREMENT as they should have, then we would not have squandered $80,000 of OUR money on Joe’s Folly Pavilion. Nor, would we have spent another $40,000 PLUS for pool area and office alterations and building additions to the Maintenance Building.
All of these improvements were done illegally – without the 75% vote of the owners – and Joey and the Board have now admitted their GUILT with the request for the vote they just mailed you.
If the Board is requiring the 75% vote for the walkway railing alteration – then why was it not done for the $120,000 of wasted money for the above projects???
The fact that they are NOW requiring this vote for this alteration is clear cut proof that Joey and the past and current Boards are GUILTY of multiple violations of this very Article and should be held accountable AND liable to ALL the owners for their gross incompetence and gross negligence for having already squandered so much of the owners’ money that otherwise could pay for the maintenance that really needs to be done at Deer Ridge Mountain Resort.
I don’t know about you all – but I want my money back – and expect to hold the violators personally financially responsible for their gross incompetence and gross negligence.
(Come on, Luther, give me some credit. Ha! Fat chance. It would have been nice to have an acknowledgment from Luther in his letters that I was the one that pushed for them abiding by this Article XII, but I noticed there was no positive acknowledgment in his Board Meeting letter either. Golly, gee whiz. But more about THAT letter coming soon.)
The Part About Article XII That Joey and The Board Are STILL Ignoring
The part they are ignoring – is the REST of the Section that Luther Parker refers to: Master Deed, Page 16, Article XII, number 2.
Part of Number 2 is shown above. Guess what else is in Number 2?
See the yellow highlight? What this means is that for EVERY improvement and alteration, TWO votes are required:
- A 75% positive vote by all the all the owners
- AND, a 90% positive vote by all mortgage companies that have mortgages on any and all units at Deer Ridge, based on the total mortgage indebtedness on all units at Deer Ridge!
I am not sure Joey and the Board even know which mortgage companies hold liens in light of all the foreclosures nationwide, especially with all of the consolidation in the industry. Stories abound in the news about how so many foreclosures are stalled nationwide because mortgages have been sold and resold so many times, that no one is sure who actually even holds the note on many of these properties anymore.
So, finding out who each lender REALLY is, then getting to a person who is really in charge of that loan and willing to vote for anything will be, at best, difficult.
Additionally, Joey and the Board will be tasked with PROVING that they have contacted the right person, got a signed proxy and properly executed estoppel certificate from each legitimate lender, with the proxy signed by a person with proven authority, and produce a full, detailed spreadsheet clearly showing the comprehensive analysis to prove that a positive 90% vote of all mortgagees has been successfully accomplished in full accordance with the yellow highlighted section of Master Deed, Page 16, Article XII, number 2.
I personally believe that, in this economy with the current real estate mortgage disarray, this cannot be done legitimately.
Come on guys. You have now finally ADMITTED you were GUILTY of doing things so very WRONG all this time in the past. And, you can’t just do it HALF RIGHT this time.
I, and a lot of other owners, will be watching for the proof you have done it 100% right this time – including getting the necessary mortgagee vote!
Are They Really Waiting For Your Vote?
The talk around the property is that Joey and the Board are not really waiting for your vote. Scuttlebutt around here is that they have already ordered the parts for some of this work to be done. The other talk is that they don’t care what Article XII says, they are going to go ahead and do things the way they want to – irrespective of YOUR vote. Just like they have done so many times in the past.
Vote NO
I strongly recommend you attend the Special Meeting on February 6th and hear what is really going on here at Deer Ridge. Alternatively, I strongly urge you to vote NO on the ballot you will be receiving. If you like, you can designate me as your proxy if you would like me to vote on your behalf. (Be sure and mail or fax me a copy of the proxy you send back to Joey and the Board in case they “forget” about it.)
Reasons to vote NO:
- Firstly, they are asking for another BLANK CHECK! Luther didn’t even bother to give us a cost estimate of ANY kind directly tied to his vote request! I don’t know about you, but my wife is the only person who gets a blank check from me! With Luther’s request for your Vote, there are no written bids, no statement of work, no competitive bidding, no specifications, no nothing to back it up! The Board must think we are all idiots. This, by itself, would mean a NO vote from me.
- In spite of what Joe and the Board say, most of the current wood railings are in good shape and do NOT need to be replaced at all. Hence, leaving what we have would save the owners a ton of wasted money spent on what did not need to be replaced.
- In our beautiful mountain environment, the metal railings do not tie in aesthetically at all with the property as well as the current wood railings do.
- We just spent over $84,000 on walkway repairs in the last couple of years! We are going to trash all the monies just spent on them???
I Don’t Trust Them
I hereby put Joe and the Board on notice that I will want to see all the cast votes at the meeting, record how each owner voted, see the above proof on all mortgagees – and post that information on the Blog for owner verification.
So, don’t even think of trying to rig the vote. We will be watching – very carefully.
Please see new posting on this subject!
Sent out an e-mail today to Luther, Joe, David, and Tom Asking what day / date the railing on the test run walkway will be dismantled / demolished …
Hopefully one of them will let us know when that work will begin.
We need to have photos to see -IF- the inside wood or ANY of the wood on the railing is in need of replacement….
Well Said…. More to Follow…..
Just got a chance to read the letter.
#1. The board really does not understand or is choosing to ignore the Master Deed. They cannot force us to replace the walkway railings as stated in Luther’s letter. The Master Deed states that they can only do needed maintenance without a vote. So unless they can get the 75% of all owners plus the 90% vote of all mortgage companies that hold a mortgage at Deer Ridge, we are not obligated to do as Luther stated. He said that he was going to replace them anyway no matter what we owners voted for. These were just done and they do not need to be replaced – so therefore Luther READ THE DEED – you cannot force us to pay for the replacement of these again.
YOUR WORDING LUTHER IN YOUR NOTE: THE AUDACITY!
YOU tell all the owners to note that voting No will not halt you from redoing the walkway railings. All we little peon owners get to do is decide if they are aluminum?
Sir, READ THE DEED AND WORD YOUR LETTERS APPROPRIATELY.
THE OWNERS ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAINTENANCE THAT IS PROVEN TO BE NEEDED REPAIRS. SO, YOUR OBLIGATION IS TO PROVE THAT THESE ARE NEEDED REPAIRS.
As Robert keeps asking, show us the proof, show us the documentation, show us the competitive bids.
NO, WE DO NOT TRUST YOU ANYMORE.
Hey Robert,
Rumor at the Ridge is you are senile eh?! Hmnn. Nah, you are simply a ‘resident’ and here to view all that goes on on a daily level and you ask questions and your awareness level and IQ are very high. In other words you are a threat. Look at the bright side, if they are talking about you (or me) then they are leaving someone else alone!
Truth of the matter is Joey…that when Sears did a personality profile test on me (still have the copy if you wish to review it) i was 96 percentile in AWARENESS LEVEL. The psychologist told me of those he tested that there were a couple higher in the 98 percentile, one being Michael Jordan.
BTW**Let’s look at another thing on this odd GGRC bill. Let’s say it is SOMEWHAT LEGIT. Let’s say Joey in some fashion got his own ‘budget billing set up!’ Let’s say that he ‘plans’ on having the funding by March/April/May of NEXT spring with a payment already made. Yes, he may not have paid it in full at the correct due date, and it really appears delinquent and factuality is, but for whatever reason GGRC gave him a ‘deal?’ Budget billing sort a with a twist? You know, re-allocation at work! Without any money at this time to back it.
Okay…here is food for thought. Again…Let’s do assume it is somewhat legit. Here comes the question.
1. How in the H is Joey going to come up with the money to pay those increments off in those months of next year?
Right after the hard, winters nap up here! How is he going to do that and make all the other bills too? AFTER JAN/FEB. The electric/payroll/payroll taxes on and on etc…. March is NOT busy here. April isn’t all that great either or May but they can sort of hold their own if the weather cooperates, but not in my opinion hold their own that much that $ GGRC is going to need by spring. (you rml candidates are you getting huge paychecks in Mar/Apr/May etc?)
In order for that to work and he ALSO make it thru Jan/Feb he would have had to put TONS of $ away in the good months, June/July/October of last year. (keep in mind there is no copper left, so one cannot scrounge up anything off the grounds for Jan/Feb) Let’s say he did get some needed revenue through the raise of hoa’s, but still how is he going to get the REVENUE to clear those amounts ON consecutive months of March/April/May etc??? Hmnnnn. I can only think of one way, but maybe i am wrong. The A Assessment? Those are big chunky GGRC disbursements for that time of the year. I can only think of one big receipt coming in. Please tell me i am wrong. Since we have no access to anything who knows the truth…..
Tina,
LOVE your comments! And, your thought provoking questions….I bet all the Board and Joey are provoked like hell! Some day, some one….be it us owners, or a court…or a federal and/or state agency WILL hold these folks accountable for their actions…and inactions.
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Neil,
Great you are here for so long. Let’s get together in the next day or so and get your sound system fixed.
Appreciate your comments on checking on the railings. We’ve checked them all and don’t see ANY thing but some minor wood that needs replacing. This money does NOT need to be spent – and good ole Luther Baby makes it clear, he is gonna spend our money whether we vote for the double wide aluminum replacements or not.
I also appreciate you and Tina filing a report with the FBI too. The more of us who do that, the faster, I hope, will be there action.
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James,
Thanks for your continued support and your proxy. The more proxies we have, the better our chances of preventing the usual railroading with Conductor Joe.
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Fred’s Daddy,
Their blog is a joke…it purposely has all Comments turned OFF…so no one can make a comment, ask a question or in any way challenge Joe and the Board to be accountable in ANY way.
I did notice they took and posted several of my documents I had taken the time to scan in and turn into Acrobat files. But that’s OK…as long as they get to all owners. It would have been nice to hear a Thank You…Uh huh…
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Thanks again for all your comments!
Robert
PS: Swamped with client deadlines – happens every year at the holidays and goes into Feb or March…but I AM taking time off to enjoy things over the holidays. But, as a consequence, am running behind in all the postings I want to make and follow ups with the attorneys which is progressing.
PPS: Latest diatribe being spread by Joey to the employees (and who knows who else) is that I am senile…and that is why I resorted to reporting GGRC and him to the FBI. Just add this to all the other disinformation Joey and the Board have been spreading about me for years. As long as we can one day finally get Deer Ridge operated justly and openly, the abuse will be worth it!
PPPS: Please, everyone reading this blog, I would love to hear your comments on each of the postings here. You don’t have a voice on the new Joey Blog…but you do have one here.
BTW—— has anyone noticed on the new Deer Ridge web site as of now you cannot post a comment. I tried to make a comment the other day it never showed up I guess they did not like the questions I asked
Seems to me the railing in place now look just fine, the picture of new railings look as though they were meant to be in New York City not Gatlinburg Tennessee.thanks for listening
I made it up on Fri. pm, Thankfully the snow on the last mile did not stop me… The last 2 days the view & snow have been more than beautiful…
I’ve been snug and warm while adding a little more wood paneling to the unit, The next 12 days will be spent enjoying the time off in this beautiful place, resting and recharging for the hard work ahead next year, doing my best not to think about not being able to trust the folks we have running Deer Ridge..
Here I go wishing again….
Wishing I had a clue as to why none of us owners are allowed copies of our complete financial records… Why the convenience of digital recording of the meetings are FORBIDDEN.. By ALL members of the board.. That’s right -ALL- … All of them are so worried that the OWNERS might hear what is really said at even the PUBLIC “Public ” meaning open to all owners willing to drive hundreds of miles and sit in 8-10 hr meetings”, and they are so indifferent to the needs of out of state owners that might be interested in listening at their leisure to the business carried on in those meetings…
Oh Well… It’s still Beautiful, Peaceful, Restful, It’s a shame we are seemingly now on the hook for more than DOUBLE what the paint job only, Was “supposed” to cost…
I am also filing for an FBI investigation, Too bad it takes this, but, I hope you all make hat call and fill out the form, making that request, if the board wants to play games let them play with the public servants that won’t stand for all this nonsense.
We need answers… NOT Stone Walling….. NOT Secrecy…. Not Smugly saying.. “You can go to the office and LOOK, All we have to do is give you “ACCESS” But you can not make copies” Give me a break, They are OUR records….
We have asked politely MANY Times and in MANY ways By MANY People,to the point of BEGGING…. I really dislike all this, but we’re talking really big dollars here,
By the way the railings on C Building and the 5 others I have checked just TODAY are as SOLID as can be…So why replace them at all, Especially at a time like this?
Please, Please, make your opinion known.
By the way… Change in appearance on even ONE walkway is not authorized and will “IF Not Voted Through will have to be taken Down…. More Wasted $$$ ”
Beautiful Place, SAD SAD SAD Situation, Neil C-208
James,
I am with you. I work on weekends and have a hard time getting off to get to the meetings myself. I am giving Robert my proxy as well.
We need to stop Joey and the Jets before they bankrupt all of us.
We need to all file with the FBI.
I got the form for voting and I’d be glad Robert to make you our proxy, just let me know where to send the copy. Maybe even better if everyone made you their proxy – might carry more weight. I cannot believe the Board has failed to respond to any of the expressed concerns in any positive fashion.
The only conclusion that is reasonable is there is something going on – and I for one want it stopped ASAP. As an out of state owner, I miss a lot of what’s going on down there, and due to my work schedule, I cannot make the meetings.
May the dam that holds this all back soon break.
BTW……..Aluminum on snow and ice is called ‘One had better hang onto the railing!’
You can’t get maintenance to even sweep leaves from in front of the doors on ANY ramp, so what is the big deal with making it easy on them? They don’t do it anyway! All they do is toss some ice melter down, never sweep it up after the thaw. One flick of the wrist! They are allergic to snow shovels and in our area it is minimal anyway. However; if it is snow removal to be made easier, it would be MUCH CHEAPER for the owners to purchase 1 FRICKIN SNOW BLOWER than BUY ALL NEW Aluminum ramps! Maintenance could use a little exercise, other than riding their golf cars.
BTW…Who is the contractor for this project? Dare i ask. Whatcha got going with this contractor Joey? You are wanting MY money so i am going to ask. How many bids and from whom?
I take it this may be the same ole contractor that Joey wanted to re-side the whole complex in ’06 and tried a hard push again in ’08? For a whole bunch of bucks! How much again Joey? You know, the contractor from Atlanta, where Joey was from – or is this a new face or an old buddy?
Luther you have a unique kinship to Joey and have rentals and i am sure that in Memphis you would want a reputable, insured, local contractor, right? Would you want any dealings from an out of state, Atlanta based organization? I guess if the price was right, huh?
What does one contractor do to make the price right? I am curious.
Robert,
You have so eloquently stated so much of what has gone on here for more years than anyone on the ‘outside’ or any owner that comes here once per year could imagine. I am sorry Joe/Luther/board, at the moment i do not feel quite so tolerant of your political regime, so here is my 2 Cents worth.
1. I am sick and tired of all the BS from Joey/board that continues to go on year after year. My gut feeling is this regime is not even close to being on the up and up. I am tired of all the dealing/s and all the ‘privy fun’ they have gotten and squandered with all of OUR money. Year after year simply because they could. I truly believe all these years they felt they would and could get away with whatever they wished and no one would stop them. Free and clear they could do what they wanted to do, play God, because they were Joe/board and what they say ~ goes. They have made their own rules to benefit themselves and their nepotistic friends and relatives and partners of the few and what they call “The Deer Ridge Family.”
Two years ago they collected $1g from me and i got my ramp put in E block in 08. After the assessment (totaling $84G as WE ALL PAID) and NOW it is GARBAGE Luther?????? Two years later! The wood is guaranteed for 25 years since it is pressure treated, right? I cannot help it that they had friends of friends do a crappy job. BOTTOM LINE: It needs to be back UP to code/correctly shored up and Joe/board taken DOWN.
****Since the Joe/board are who illegally squandered our $84G then THEY should pay for those repairs. PERIOD.**** Dig into your pocket books once board!
I am sick and tired of some of their fun contractors that were let’s say relatives/friends/fly by nighters / etc…. Jeez, there were so many jerks working on those ramps it was ridiculous.
*Fellow Owners, you don’t know how lucky you were because a new group of nepotistic idiots were scheduled to do the sundeck. Did you know that? I know the story on that one from the help that was planning on getting a new car because of the bid that wasn’t exactly well…. let’s say sealed. Then, that fell through at the outset. Interesting.
So, i am going to do a little assessment here myself! Of this board/Joe.
It is ALWAYS easy to get THEIR paws on OWNERS MONEY isn’t it Joe/Luther? Fun and games huh! Easy as 1, 2 3! BUT you boys (and a girl) bit off more than you could chew with OWNERS, we are now totally sick of it and YOU, and don’t you ever forget it. So put your PAWS inside your pocket pants.
******************VOTE NO. Make a bold statement.
One of two things occurred with that $84g back then in my opinion:
1. They thought they could get away with padding nepotistic friends pocketbooks or contractors that might come ‘thru’ for them in some fashion? Maybe in some application for THEM. I wonder?
2. Or, As my dad use to say they were “Dumber than Owl Dung.” (still are) Thinking that they will NEVER get caught. Calculating and figuring they politically have (HAD) things under control for years and they have no plans of EVER being accountable. At least they have not been YET and NEVER have taken ACCOUNTABILITY for ANY of their mistakes/misgivings or maybe Corrupt Dealings?
But, they are still playin’ their game and wanting OUR money without any accountability. Still! This is AMAZING!
Board Boys, Girl, here is what you need to do:
Open the books Luther and SHOW ALL OF US that i am wrong. I PRAY i am. I will be glad to be wrong. Because if i am NOT wrong then someone/s is probably going to JAIL. If you want ANY MORE OF OUR MONEY it is TIME for you to OPEN UP THE BOOKS. Why not???? What is so difficult about that? Why would you not want all of this to go away?? I am assuming that you are all innocent, of course.